Immigration Officer: Welcome to Alpha World! Enjoy building in this world and please observe and respect our Content Guidelines located at www.activeworlds.com/terms.html
Immigration Officer: Welcome to the AWUniversity! For information on classes visit http://www.awcommunity.org/awu
Jedi Master Luke: there we go
Camper Gizmo: Hi
Jedi Master Luke: hi giz
Jedi Master Luke: i took a short ride on coaster then came
Camper Gizmo: hi!
Camper Gizmo: cool
Jedi Master Luke: whats this class about
Magine: RWX modelling
Magine: the beginners class
Jedi Master Luke: oh...making obs?
Camper Gizmo: I'm a begginer
Magine: luke, yeo :)
Magine: gizmo, good :)
Jedi Master Luke: english version : making obs
Magine: yeo=yep, oops
Camper Gizmo: should we click on the web page thingy for rwx scripts?
Jedi Master Luke: technical i dont understand language = RWX modelling
Jedi Master Luke: right?
Magine: yes
Jedi Master Luke: LoL
Jedi Master Luke: are we going to make an object 2day?
Magine: well today we are going to talk about the basics
Jedi Master Luke: i made one already.....sorta.....can i send it to you
Jedi Master Luke: Bold or not?
Jedi Master Luke: LOL
Magine: ok, send it if you want
Jedi Master Luke: lemme find it
Magine: hiya carre :)
Camper Gizmo: HI No Name Person!
Carre: hii Magine
Camper Gizmo: HI!
Carre: oh great one
Jedi Master Luke: giz
Camper Gizmo: can I bring my bot here?
Camper Gizmo: yeah Luke?
Jedi Master Luke: go take a quick  look at GZ
Carre: no bots
Magine: i don't know if bots are allowed in awu or not
Jedi Master Luke: at the fort
Camper Gizmo: oh
Camper Gizmo: ok
Camper Gizmo: BRB
Jedi Master Luke: they are
Jedi Master Luke: it says everybody
Jedi Master Luke: i know
Jedi Master Luke: RWX modelling to be exact
phalaphe: Hello
Jedi Master Luke: giz
Camper Gizmo: Luke, those thingys are cool
Jedi Master Luke: u like
Jedi Master Luke: ?
Jedi Master Luke: hi pha
Labcrazy: Hi!
Camper Gizmo: yep
Jedi Master Luke: hi lab
phalaphe: oh my LOTS of stuff to dl
Camper Gizmo: Hi
Camper Gizmo: !
Labcrazy: Hi jedi! =)
Camper Gizmo: is my bot allowed here?
Labcrazy: Hi everyone! =)
May2687: Hi! :O)
Camper Gizmo: Hi!
Labcrazy: Hi Jet! =)
Immigration Officer: You are being joined by JerMe.
Labcrazy: BRB I got the munchies.. =)
DJ Party: Hi Guys
ConArtist: Hi everyone
Camper Gizmo: Hi
phalaphe: hey
phalaphe: OH MY not everything loaded lOL
Camper Gizmo: !
Camper Gizmo: !
Labcrazy: Backers! =)
ConArtist: LOL, hey Gizmo!
May2687: WB
Camper Gizmo: WB
Jedi Master Luke: funny name though...i kinda dont understand how i did it
ConArtist: Everyone fly up here.. :-)
Camper Gizmo: Hi Conartist!
ConArtist: Hiya Giz
Magine: we'll wait a few minutes to let you all download the objects here...
May2687: Coming
Jedi Master Luke: mag
Labcrazy: Okies!
May2687: I'm gonna remember this place in case I get disconnected
Jedi Master Luke: take a look at it
Labcrazy: mmmmm Frosted animal crackers
phalaphe: does anyone else see lots of triangles?
ConArtist: Ya got everything under control here? Do ya need any help?
May2687: Lab, I have chocolate
May2687: I did before phal now it's loading a little
Labcrazy: No most loaded for me
ConArtist: Good idea May :-)
Jedi Master Luke: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<Gives Magine an iced tea
Labcrazy: Chocolate?
phalaphe: sign it stopped loading
ConArtist: Yea phalph, that means the objects are loading :-D
Justin13: SORRY somone kicked me of AOl
phalaphe: no it stopped loading ca
ConArtist: Ok, good
Jedi Master Luke: <<<<<<<<festively passes popcorn to everyone
Labcrazy: *shares her frosted animal crackers with everyone* Here you all go! enjoy! =)
Magine: (to ConArtist) i'm just getting organized here, think i have it under control (yeah sure)
May2687: Thanks Lab!
Carre: yumy
Justin13: and then it said somone was on my name but there wasnt
Labcrazy: Welcome! =)
Camper Gizmo: animal crackerS! I love'em!
May2687: *gives everybody all the chocolate she can get*
Labcrazy: Thanks! =)
phalaphe: still not loading
ConArtist: LOL, you shoulda seen what the first day of camp was liek! LOL, whatcha need help with?
May2687: LOL we'll have to get a big pile of chocolate!
Labcrazy: I myself liek the pink frosted crackers
May2687: Your welcome!
Labcrazy: like
CHERi o: phalaphe go out and come back again
Jedi Master Luke: <<<<<Gives everyone a 6 pack of a soda of there choice and 2 large pizzas>>>>>>>>>
ConArtist: Wow, lag city here :-D
Magine: (to ConArtist) nothing right now, just getting my notes together
May2687: Oooh thanks!
phalaphe: BRB everyone
Camper Gizmo: ok
Justin13: did i mess anything
Labcrazy: Thanks!
Jedi Master Luke: mmmmmmm
May2687: Let's find somwhere to pile th chocolate?
ConArtist: Ok, just call on me if ya need anything
Labcrazy: Not much!
Camper Gizmo: May, you can pile it riight beside me!
May2687: LOL Gizmo
Camper Gizmo: hehehehe
ConArtist: Hm..downloads are going like crazy
Labcrazy: LOL! =D
phalaphe: Claps with delights as everything donloads
Labcrazy: let take a vote...
Jedi Master Luke: hi say hi to birdies above us
CHERi o: :) WB
May2687: Hello birdies above us!
Labcrazy: What color on frosted animal crackers do yu liek better? Pink or white?
ConArtist: These textures sure are taking forever..hm..
Labcrazy: you like
May2687: Hey! They're cy
May2687: White
Labcrazy: Ok
Labcrazy: any more?
Camper Gizmo: Magine?
Magine: is everyone here?
Justin13: yes
phalaphe: I see a bird bot
Justin13: i got kicked from AOL
Labcrazy: I think! Keeter can't make it today =(
Justin13: might get that alot
May2687: Me too
phalaphe: fort3 is here
ConArtist: Yup Magine, BTW your PS rights are off :-)
Jedi Master Luke: did u see ob
CHERi o: Justin, maybe turn off your im?
Magine: i had to turn off bold in order to manipulate my visual aid models here, i hope no one minds :)
Justin13: ok
Magine: (to Jedi Master Luke) yep, but kind of hectic right now, will have to get back to you on that :)
ConArtist: NP :-)
Jedi Master Luke: k
Labcrazy: Nope! and I don't even know what you said lol
Labcrazy: =)
May2687: LOLI don know either Lab
Justin13: but... its like my conntaion gets lots or somthing
Magine: so, has everyone got the scenery downloaded yet? :)
phalaphe: May she said in order for her to fiddle with her things she had to turn of bold
Justin13: yup
May2687: It's all downloaded for me
CHERi o: yes
Camper Gizmo: I got it
Labcrazy: The Sky?
phalaphe: yes
DJ Party: btw, what time is this going to tend?
May2687: Oh. Thanks phal lol
Labcrazy: Yup!
Camper Gizmo: Magine?
Magine: yes giz?
Magine: we'll go a couple of hours i think
Camper Gizmo: how long is the thingy?
Jedi Master Luke: look up
Camper Gizmo: oops
DJ Party: Ok.
Jedi Master Luke: its birdes
CHERi o: is everyone saving their chat text?  would be a good idea
ConArtist: Hm...
Camper Gizmo: oh
Jedi Master Luke: why?
Magine: ahem, ahem microphone check :D
May2687: I am. I always do
phalaphe: I am saving it for a bunch of ffirends :)
ConArtist: LOL Magine
Labcrazy: hehe
phalaphe: LOL@Magine
Camper Gizmo: LOL
Magine: carre is going to help me move the models around, so i can speak boldly, heheh
Jedi Master Luke: LOOK UP
DJ Party: LOL
Jedi Master Luke: BIRDES
Labcrazy: GAG anyonw want some Frosted animal crackers?
Camper Gizmo: *gets a good seat*
DJ Party: Great
Magine: bird bots, watch your heads
May2687: I'll take 'em Lab!
ConArtist: LOL
Labcrazy: *gives them to Jet*
Justin13: AHHH BIRDslol
May2687: I see the bots
Labcrazy: Share them now..
May2687: Thanks!
Labcrazy: Welcome! =)
Labcrazy: BRB
Magine: ok, is anyone NOT ready? :) (let's lose the bots, please...kind of distracting)
May2687: :O)
Jedi Master Luke: they gone
ConArtist: Nope, ready whenever ya need me
Justin13: yeah  iam reday
Jedi Master Luke: me too
phalaphe: wait phalpahe is not rdy
phalaphe: Phalaphe is rdy
Camper Gizmo: oops, pushed the angry button
ConArtist: LOL
May2687: LOL
May2687: *ROFL*
Labcrazy: Ok back wit cheetos for everyone! =)
Carre: zapping
ConArtist: Thanks Lab
May2687: WB
Camper Gizmo: oooo
Magine: ok then...welcome to beginning rwx modelling :)
Mizzy: Magine, i think its ok to start,  people should be saving their chat.txt and can scroll up here if they only miss the beginning
Labcrazy: welcome! =)
Justin13: :))
May2687: Hmm..let's get Doritos too??
ConArtist: Good idea Mizzy
Magine: this is just going to be a brief intro, since we are only going to have two sessions, as i understand it...
ConArtist: If I'm gonna help, could I have PS rights? :-)
Labcrazy: THere its saying
Labcrazy: saving
ConArtist: Yes, today and tomorrow
May2687: I always log chat
Magine: (to ConArtist) i don't have the power to grant that, tho...
ConArtist: Oh ok..NP
ConArtist: Does Carre?
ConArtist: Good May
Camper Gizmo: lots of people here
[ActiveDude]: Welcome Magine, to  RWX Modelling with Magine. Remember to log your chat
Labcrazy: I do when people remind me hehe
ConArtist: LOL, nice bot
May2687: Lol Lab
[ActiveDude]: May2687 Laughs out Loud
Labcrazy: Ok mr.bot
May2687: ActiveDude owner
[ActiveDude]: My Owner is Citizen AWCamp2 (CitNo 304726)
Labcrazy: Awcamp2?
Jedi Master Luke: hehe
ConArtist: Hm..
phalaphe: whos in awcamp2??
ConArtist: She's logged into a priv
Labcrazy: Oml ,thats the guy who tried to get me to say our PPw
Camper Gizmo: its Luke's
Camper Gizmo: who?
Jedi Master Luke: who?
Jedi Master Luke: wasn't me
Camper Gizmo: I'm in AWCamp2
Jedi Master Luke: u giz?
May2687: OML or OMG?
ConArtist: Does carre have the power to grant it?
Labcrazy: AwCamp2
Carre: Go on Magine :)  time to listen
Magine: so, have any of you made any models before? just to get an idea of who already knows what...
Magine: (to ConArtist) nope
Labcrazy: Nope
Jedi Master Luke: me sorta
Camper Gizmo: nope
Labcrazy: BRB mom
May2687: Nope
JerMe: no
[ActiveDude]: Labcrazy will Be Right Back
Jedi Master Luke: Magine u have it
phalaphe: I have altered a bunch
ConArtist: Only Lu prolly, hm..
May2687: K
ConArtist: Nope, none whatsoever
Justin13: i dont :((
Mizzy: only modified here
Camper Gizmo: Magine?
Jedi Master Luke: I have altered also
Labcrazy: Back
May2687: WB
Labcrazy: My mom can be so annoying
Labcrazy: thanks! =)
Camper Gizmo: WB
Magine: well that's ok, cuz we are going to start from the very beginning here, heheh
May2687: Welcome! :O)
Labcrazy: THanks! =)
ConArtist: Hehe
Justin13: hehe :) ALRIGHT
Camper Gizmo: I hope this is easy...
DJ Party: Do we need any programs
Jedi Master Luke: ...LOL
Jedi Master Luke: word
Jedi Master Luke: pad
May2687: Ditto Gizmo
Magine: oh yes, the list of useful tools :)
Justin13: :)
ConArtist: Yes, "useful" tools..hehe
[ActiveDude]: Bye CHERi o , Come back soon!!!!!
Labcrazy: Useful is a good word
Magine: if you will all email me, i'll email you back the list of tools...
Magine: magine@pipeline.com
JerMe: llose the bot
ConArtist: Hm..can you please turn that bot off?
ConArtist: It is becoming a distraction...
Jedi Master Luke: ok i turn off a
ConArtist: Thank you
Magine: activedude, please deactivate :)
Jedi Master Luke: SHUT DOWN
[ActiveDude]: YES SIR
Jedi Master Luke: hes gone
May2687: What's your e-mail? It scrolled iup to fast
phalaphe: I emailed you :))
Justin13: magine@pipeline.com
ConArtist: magine@pipeline.com
phalaphe: magine@pipeline.com
Justin13: :)
ConArtist: Oh, a repeat! LOL
Jedi Master Luke:  magine@pipeline.com
Labcrazy: "this bot will self destruct in 3 seconds*
Labcrazy: magine@pipeline.com
Magine: i will email you all the list after class
May2687: LOLI got it! LOL
Justin13: ok
Magine: ok, to begin....you all know what renderware is?
phalaphe: Yes
Jedi Master Luke: <<<<<<<festively passes everyone popcorn and a ckoe or iced tea b4 we begin....ENJOY
Justin13: umm kinda
Justin13: yes
Jedi Master Luke: ckoe=coke
Camper Gizmo: I sent the email
Camper Gizmo: almost
Jedi Master Luke: kinda
DJ Party: Yes, a 3-d scripting language
JerMe: ya...'
phalaphe: rwx=renderware
Camper Gizmo: I sent the email
May2687: I just sent it
Magine: renderware is a library of routines for 3d programming
Jedi Master Luke: OK GIZMO...we heard u
Justin13: ok
Magine: which the active worlds browser uses to create all that you see around us here :)
Justin13: :)
JerMe: dosen't renderware cost $
JerMe: ?
phalaphe: no
Magine: the renderware (rw) libraries are in DLL's... program modules that other programs (like the awb) can call on
ConArtist: Ok, I may sound like a blockhead, but what's renderware?
Labcrazy: Back
Jedi Master Luke: rwx
May2687: WB
ConArtist: DLL-- Dynamic Link Library
JerMe: yea...so where do i get it?
Magine: yes, jerme, rw is pretty expensive, but we don't need the programming kit because we are just going to make models for rw :)
Camper Gizmo: <------confused
ConArtist: Oh, cool
Justin13: :)))K!!!
Justin13: lol
Labcrazy: everyone stop talking for a minute pleasE!
May2687: <-----seriousily confused lol
Camper Gizmo: lol
Labcrazy: i'm tring to scroll up
ConArtist: Don't worry Giz, you're not alone! LOL
Magine: may and camper, it will become clear in a moment :)
Labcrazy: <---same here
Camper Gizmo: ok
Jedi Master Luke: EVERYONE FOCUS ON WHAT SHE's SAYING AND QUIT TALKING
May2687: All confused stand over here LOL
Camper Gizmo:
Jedi Master Luke: u will soon understand
Jedi Master Luke:
Magine: now, all of the 3d objects that rw displays here are described in files called rw scripts
Labcrazy: please stp talking for 3 seconds
Magine: these are the .rwx files we will be making
Labcrazy: ok.. thanks
DJ Party: Ok
ConArtist: Want me to ask Lu about giving me PS rights here in AWUniv for a sec?  To help you out..
Justin13: ok :)
Camper Gizmo: ok
Labcrazy: Ok, I give up lol i'll check the log
ConArtist: NM...she just went offline...hm..
Magine: basically they are just text files that each contain the instructions for rw, on how to create a particular object
ConArtist: Maybe if she gets online again though..
Camper Gizmo: oh I get it
ConArtist: Cool
Magine: so in a way, a rwx file is like a simple program
ConArtist: Right..
Justin13: oh
DJ Party: Like QBasic
Labcrazy: Simple? lol
Magine: well, simpler than a program in C or assembly language, lab :)
phalaphe: LOL
Justin13: lol['
Labcrazy: Probully, I would know. All i do is sit here and simle lol
Magine: so, to create a rwx file you just use your favorite text editor
Justin13: umm notepad ok
Labcrazy: whats a text editor?
Labcrazy: notepad
Magine: i recommend textpad (i'll send the web page for that in email) but whatever you prefer is ok
Jedi Master Luke: notepad , lab
Labcrazy: I don't have text pad
Camper Gizmo: ok
Jedi Master Luke: Notepad
ConArtist: Lab, try using Notpad then
Labcrazy: I have word pad and notepade
Magine: text editor, like windows notepad program
Labcrazy: okies
Jedi Master Luke: okkkyy ddoookkkyyy
ConArtist: Word Pad or notpad will work just fine guys
Labcrazy: =) got it amzingly
Magine: lab, you can get textpad off a web page, i'll send you the url in email
May2687: Grr I got disocnnected
Magine: or use wordpad or notepad :)
Labcrazy: Ok! =)
Jedi Master Luke: oooootaayy
ConArtist: WN though May
ConArtist: LOL, WN=WB
Labcrazy: GAG Cheetos make a mess brb
May2687: Thanks
Camper Gizmo: I was wondering what WN was
ConArtist: LOL, yea, typos typos..
Magine: before i describe some of the rw script commands, we should discuss some terminology
Jedi Master Luke: yiah
Jedi Master Luke: oops
Jedi Master Luke: yiah=yeah
Jedi Master Luke: yes please
May2687: Did I miss anything?
Camper Gizmo: *listens carefully*
Magine: to begin with...everything that rw draws, everything we see around us here, is made up of "polygons"
ConArtist: Polygons=Multiple sided figure
Magine: a polygon is a flat shape with 3 or more sides
Labcrazy: ARGHHHHH
JerMe: poly=5
Labcrazy: *sobs* My moms kick me off
ConArtist: Wow, this calss gives a mini-Geometry lesson too! :-D
May2687: Why Lab??
Jedi Master Luke: bye Lab
Magine: jerme, poly means "many"
ConArtist: It was greek I believe
JerMe: then y do they call it a POLYgon
Camper Gizmo: Lab, want me to send you the chat log?
Labcrazy: *sigh* sure
Jedi Master Luke: POLY=many
JerMe: it's a five sided flat figure...like the octagon
Camper Gizmo: ok
Jedi Master Luke: GON=sides
Labcrazy: poly=many
Labcrazy: ?
May2687: Lab..why is she kicking you off?
Labcrazy: she gotta check her dumb mail
ConArtist: Lab, http://www.dumbmail.com? LOL
Labcrazy: No..groupwise
phalaphe: LOL@ConArtist
May2687: Can't she get another comp? lol
Labcrazy: Yes
Labcrazy: but see it sues the modem
Labcrazy: uses
Labcrazy: ARGHHHH
ConArtist: Prolly sues it as well
Labcrazy: why does everything go wrong?
May2687: Can't she check it later????
Jedi Master Luke: Get Back To Magine's Subject
Labcrazy: "My prorites are more then yours*
Jedi Master Luke: Someone send him chat
Mizzy: Calm dow here everyone, try not to distract from what Magine is saying  :)
Labcrazy: Ok ok
May2687: Tell her to go jump in the lake lol
ConArtist: LOL
Labcrazy: I wish she would
killamo: lo?
ConArtist: Well, I have to go for a bit, because me mum is getting on, but I'll BBL
May2687: Do what I do. Blare a CD player and pretend you can't hear her
Magine: a three sided polygon is called a triangle, and a four sided poly is a "quad" in rw terminology
Labcrazy: Ok
ConArtist: Bye veryone! Happy camping!
Magine: any poly with more that 4 sides is just called a polygon :)
Camper Gizmo: oh
Camper Gizmo: isn't a quad a square?
Labcrazy: Ok
Magine: gizmo, that's right
JerMe: yes giz
Camper Gizmo: cool
Justin13: WHAT I MESS
Justin13: i got kicked o AOL
Magine: since rw can draw quads and triangles a bit faster than polygons with more sides,
Magine: most models are made with mainly quads and triangles
Labcrazy: So..that means?
Justin13: Hello
Justin13: ol
Labcrazy: what about the flat ones what are they made out of?
Magine: polygons are all flat, lab
Labcrazy: Ohhh
Labcrazy: Sorry,
Magine: everything here, even things that seem to be rounded, are still made out of polygons
Jedi Master Luke: 6 quads = cube
Jedi Master Luke: put together in the right way
Labcrazy: 10=otacgon?
Labcrazy: octa
phalaphe: 10=decagon
Labcrazy: oh
Jedi Master Luke: octagon is flat
phalaphe: octagon=8
Labcrazy: oh
Magine: jedi, 6 quads would be used to make a cube, yes
Mizzy: yes its all hollow really
Labcrazy: thats 6 sides right?
Labcrazy: quads = sides
Magine: lab, yes
Labcrazy: Yay! =)
Magine: the funny thing about polygons in rw, is that they have only one visible side :)
phalaphe: hmmm
Labcrazy: isn;t that what floows you?
Magine: do you all see this green polygon with the red arrow in a circle around it?
Labcrazy: faloows
Camper Gizmo: what happening to May and Lab?
Jedi Master Luke: *<|=^)
DJ Party: Yes
Jedi Master Luke: yes
Labcrazy: Follows
Camper Gizmo: they are wired
Camper Gizmo: yes
phalaphe: it is clear on the back!
Labcrazy: Yup
Magine: if you look at it from behind, you will see that it is invisible
Jedi Master Luke: how is that
JerMe: who...cool
phalaphe: ahh so thats how animate panels work...
Magine: that's because by default, polygons are only visible from one side
phalaphe: they are only 1 sided
Magine: each polygon is made from connected "vertices"
Camper Gizmo: cool
Labcrazy: Yup
Jedi Master Luke: cool
Labcrazy: animate pannels?
Justin13: yeah lav lol
Labcrazy: vertices?
Jedi Master Luke: <<<<<<<<slowly catching the first part she said , tryig to figures vertices out
Magine: vertex (plural vertices)
Magine: a vertex is just a point in 3d space
Labcrazy: *is completely lost*
Jedi Master Luke: vertex + corner maybe
Magine: see this model here?
Labcrazy: Ok..
Jedi Master Luke: vertex = corner maybe
Magine: the red balls show you where the vertices are
Camper Gizmo: in math I learned about vertex
Labcrazy: Yep
JerMe: vertex: The point where two line segments meet to form an angle
Labcrazy: Ah..so the tips
Camper Gizmo: I don't see any red balls
Magine: to create this green polygon in a rw script, you would first define the positions of the vertices
Magine: (vertex=a point in space)
Camper Gizmo: oh n/m
Labcrazy: how do you do that? numbers?
Magine: then you would describe the polygon that is made from the vertices
Magine: yes lab, but we'll get to the details in a moment :)
Jedi Master Luke: Model Begin
Jedi Master Luke: Clump Begin
Labcrazy: Okies! =)
Jedi Master Luke: right?
JerMe: use hex numbers 4 color
Magine: (and btw, for those of you whispering to me...i'm a bit too preoccupied right now for individual replies :)
Jedi Master Luke: k
Magine: now going back to this poly with the arrow around it...
Jedi Master Luke: = - k
Magine: this is to remind you that the polygon is only visible from the "counterclockwise" side
Magine: in other words,
Magine: when you describe the polygon,
Magine: the order that you list the vertices in determines which side the poly is visible on
JerMe: brb
Magine: a moment ago i defined a vertex as a point in 3d space
Magine: so i need to tell you how a vertex is described in a rw file :)
Jedi Master Luke: œ=8<
FelicityShagwell: hello?
Camper Gizmo: Hi
Magine: this model represents the 3d coordinate system used by rw
Labcrazy: Hi
May2687: Hiya
Magine: hi felicity, just teaching some rw modelling here :)
phalaphe: its a coordinate plain
FelicityShagwell: ok
Magine: a vertex is described by 3 numbers
Magine: the first number describes the vertex position in terms of left-and -right
Magine: like the red numbers here
Labcrazy: where did it go?
Magine: the second number describes the vertex position in terms of up and down (green numbers here)
Camper Gizmo: brb, gotta get a drink
Magine: and the third number describes the vertex position in terms of "toward and away"
JerMe: back
Camper Gizmo: back
Magine: like the blue numbers here
Labcrazy: Oh! its kinda like a chartt
Magine: so vertex 0 0 0 is at the center
Jedi Master Luke: oh
Jedi Master Luke: i get it
DJ Party: Magine is forward + or -?
Camper Gizmo: oh
DJ Party: of blue
JerMe: whoo...cool
Justin13: + is forward
Labcrazy: I get it! itsn't it amezing! =)
Magine: the numbers increase to the left, up, and toward you
Magine: oops, pardon me
Camper Gizmo: its like reading a thermometer
Magine: that is, they increase to the right, up and toward you
Justin13: and if somone gets it AFTER we are down PLEASE IF I DONT GET IT SOMONE TELl ME AFTEr lol
Magine: sorry :)
Magine: the numbers decrease to the left, down and away
Magine: so for instance,
Magine: vertex 1 0 0 would be to the right
Magine: vertex -1 0 0 would be to the left
Camper Gizmo: oh
Labcrazy: So thats wherethe point would be?
Magine: vertex 0 1 0 would be above the center
Justin13: OH
DJ Party: left right, up down, forward backword is the order
Magine: vertex 0 -1 0 would be below the center
Magine: vertex 0 0 1 would be toward you
Camper Gizmo: wouldn't 0 be center?
Magine: and vertex 0 0 -1 would be away from you
Labcrazy: the points of 3d space is like 10 2?
Magine: gizmo, yes
Camper Gizmo: oh
Magine: vertex 1 1 0 would be to the right *and* up
DJ Party: Is there only one grid or how many?
phalaphe: so it orders x axis, y axis, z axos?
Magine: well technically there are several "spaces", DJ
Magine: world space, model space, camera space...but don't worry about all that :)
Magine: just remember, for describing simple models, the coordinate system i've described here
JerMe: can we have the code to rw-xyz2  ?
Labcrazy: is simple non 3-demsional?
Magine: the scripts for some of these models is on my web page
Jedi Master Luke: so.......-5 -5 0  , and 5 -5 0 and 0 5 0    connceted would form a triangle
DJ Party: Magine are you logging this for those of us who have to leave early?
Magine: which you can see by opening your web window and clicking on that sign over there
JerMe: i know..but i don't think that one is
Justin13: Whats your webpage?
Camper Gizmo: I don't really get any of this....
Magine: yes, DJ, i'll send the log to everyone from the class who emails me
DJ Party: Ok Thanks
Magine: what don't you get, gizmo? :)
DJ Party: See You guys
Magine: i will try to explain better :)
Justin13: yeah send it to me to   PLEAES if you can
Magine: justin, click the blue sign over there for the web page
Jedi Master Luke: Magine
Camper Gizmo: I dunno, all the # and - + is hard
Justin13: :)
Jedi Master Luke: Magine
Labcrazy: so...
Labcrazy: 1 1 1 is  square?
Jedi Master Luke: Magine
phalaphe: lab 1 1 1 would be a point in space
Jedi Master Luke: Magine
Labcrazy: oh
Labcrazy: for a....?
Magine: lab, a vertex defined as 1 1 1 would be to the right and above the center point, and toward you
Jedi Master Luke: Magine
Labcrazy: is that just one space?
Labcrazy: Oh
Labcrazy: I see
Jedi Master Luke: I got a question kinda
Labcrazy: Thats not to hard!
DJ Party: How do all the polygons get connectted?
Magine: you use several vertices (points) to make a polygon
Magine: ok, for example
Jedi Master Luke: I got a question
Magine: yes jedi?
Jedi Master Luke: and an example
Jedi Master Luke: so.......-5 -5 0  , and 5 -5 0 and 0 5 0    connceted would form a triangle
Jedi Master Luke: coonceted=connected
Magine: that's right jedi :)
Jedi Master Luke: yippeeeee
Magine: if you all look at the web page, you can see an example
Labcrazy: what goes first?
Labcrazy: Red?
Jedi Master Luke: everyone here
Labcrazy: Whast the URL?
Jedi Master Luke: get out a sheet of paper
Camper Gizmo: click on the signm here Lab
Jedi Master Luke: and draw what u are htinking
Jedi Master Luke: its easier
Magine: rw-poly2.rwx is this green polygon here (minus the red balls that i added to show where the vertices are)
Jedi Master Luke: right Magine
Labcrazy: k thanks
Magine: lab, click on the blue sign there :)
Magine: as you can see on the web page,
Magine: each rw model begins with "modelbegin"
Labcrazy: Um..
Labcrazy: i don't see that
Justin13: i hav eto go
Magine: and ends with "modelend"
Justin13: :(
Magine: ok, justin, i'll send you the log, and we'll meet again tomorrow night, same time & place
Justin13: ok :))
Camper Gizmo: Bye Justin!
Labcrazy: Magine..the mage is a bucj pf vertexes
Justin13: BYUEE
May2687: Bye
Labcrazy: cunch of
Labcrazy: page
Labcrazy: Buch
Labcrazy: I hate Bob
Magine: that's right lab
Labcrazy: Ok
Magine: there are 7 vertexs there
Magine: vertices, that is
Labcrazy: Wheres is the graph type pictue thing?
Labcrazy: 7 vertexs.ok
Labcrazy: thats a simple poly gon
Magine: then those 7 vertices are used  (where is says polygon 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7)  to make the polygon
JerMe: i have to go...send me the log plz...i sent u some mail, so u have me address
JerMe: bye
Magine: each of those vertices in the script (web page) is numbered, although it doesnt show there
Labcrazy: yeah I don't see it
phalaphe: how do you number them??
Magine: phal they are automatically numbered in the order they appear in the script
Labcrazy: how do you make a new object? just type this donw>
phalaphe: ahh
phalaphe: HOw come 7 is in there twice?
May2687: Grrr disconnected
Labcrazy: down
Magine: so, whatever order you put them in the script, that's their numbering
Magine: good question, phal
phalaphe: lets hope for a good answer to LOL :))
Magine: i n the "polygon" command, the first number (the 7),
Labcrazy: polygon 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Magine: is the number of vertices
Labcrazy: O I C
Magine: and that number is then followed by the vertex numbers
May2687: What did I miss/
Labcrazy: and the end is it again
May2687: /=?
Magine: 7 vertices, so it starts "polygon 7"...
Labcrazy: Alot
Magine: then the "1 2 3 4 5 6 7" is the list of vertices to make the polygon
phalaphe: OH....do you always use all the vertices?
May2687: \:?
Magine: phal, you don't have to, but there's no need for them to be there is you dont use them :)
Labcrazy: do you need to type odwn polygon1: vertex 0.0950 0.0689 -0.0000?
Magine: "if you don't" i meant
phalaphe: ahh
Jedi Master Luke: Magine
Magine: you type is just as shown on the web page, lab
Magine: yes jedi?
Labcrazy: Oh
Jedi Master Luke: So 5 5 5 , 5 5 -5 , -5 5 5 ,-5 5 -5 ,5 -5 5, 5 -5 -5 ,-5 -5 5 , -5 -5 -5 would connect to form a cube ?
Labcrazy: exact msae Ok
Labcrazy: Jedi how do you figue this out
Jedi Master Luke: Paper
Labcrazy: Oh
Jedi Master Luke: get out some paper and pencil
May2687: I don't understand a thing now. :O(
Camper Gizmo: me neither
Jedi Master Luke: Sorry May
phalaphe: Wait, so that first number "7" does that describe how many numbers are in the sequence (1 2 3 4 5 6 7) following it, or how many vertices in the object
Magine: jedi, you could make 6 polygons to make a cube
Jedi Master Luke: ok
Magine: so you would need at least eight vertices (one for each corner)
Labcrazy: how the heck do you draw that 3d thing?
Jedi Master Luke: i have eight
Magine: lab, that's what i'm going to try to show you in this class
Labcrazy: Ah.
Jedi Master Luke: 5 5 5 , 5 5 -5 , -5 5 5 ,-5 5 -5 ,5 -5 5, 5 -5 -5 ,-5 -5 5 , -5 -5 -5
Magine: how you can figure out those crazy numbers without having to use graph paper and such
Labcrazy: but..like..how?
Jedi Master Luke: draw in3D
Jedi Master Luke: think 3D
Labcrazy: I tried
Labcrazy: Gag
Labcrazy: I got to go
phalaphe: the first number "7", does that describe how many numbers are in the sequence (1 2 3 4 5 6 7) following it, or how many vertices in the object
May2687: Lab1 Why?
Labcrazy: MOTHER
Magine: phal, both :)
Labcrazy: Gag
Labcrazy: Wait
phalaphe: ahh thanks :-)
May2687: Oh. ?Are you gonna bbl?
Labcrazy: shes calling her sister good news
May2687: -?
Labcrazy: she talks for 3 hours
Magine: well, not the number of vertices in the entire model, just in that polygon
Jedi Master Luke: how do u figure out color and stuff...and how do u view it
Labcrazy: ok back to the subject
phalaphe: gottcha
Magine: you can view your models with rwxmod (i'll send you the url in email)
Jedi Master Luke: ok
Labcrazy: Ok sned me it too
Jedi Master Luke: color? how do u dtermine color
Magine: all in the class with get it, lab :)
Labcrazy: this stuff sounds undstandible
Labcrazy: Okies! =)
Magine: color is determined by the color command, as you see in the example
Magine: the 3 numbers after "Color" represent the red, blue and green of the object
Labcrazy: Huh?
phalaphe: whats a clump
Jedi Master Luke: how do i view the color
Jedi Master Luke: if i typ 5 34 45
Jedi Master Luke: after color
Magine: phal....a clump is just a convenient way of arranging parts of the model
Mizzy: I have a color list I can forward you all
Magine: each model must have at least one clump
Labcrazy: the colro thats like..
Labcrazy: .2
Labcrazy: .5
Labcrazy: .5?
phalaphe: so in a model you can have lots of clumps?
Magine: but a model may have many clumps, yes
Jedi Master Luke: how do u do all this
Jedi Master Luke: Im now getting confused
Labcrazy: how do you know what numbers = what color?
phalaphe: I forget, when describing the color does it go 1st#=red 2nd=blue and 3rd=green?/
Jedi Master Luke: ditto Lab
Camper Gizmo: yeah
Magine: jedi, unfortunately i can't teach everything in the little time we have tonight and tomorrow, but
Mizzy: they are percentages of each of 3 main colors
Magine: the best advice i can give all of you is...experiment :)
Jedi Master Luke: ok
Magine: that's the best way to figure things out :)
Labcrazy: How do you connect it all?
Jedi Master Luke: whats surface mean?
Magine: also, the rwapi.hlp file lists all the commands (url will be sent in email)
Labcrazy: do just but this code in a note pad and a program translates it?
Labcrazy: put
Magine: lab, no program is needed to translate a rw script file
Labcrazy: Ah.
Labcrazy: it just knows?
Magine: just type this stuff in a text file, give it the .rwx extension, and you can view it with rwxmod
Labcrazy: GAG
Labcrazy: I gotta go
Magine: zip it up and you can upload it to a world :)
May2687: Are you gonna BBL?
Jedi Master Luke: how much longer is class
Labcrazy: Will someone sned me the  chat.txt?
May2687: Lab? Are you gonna BBL?
Magine: just about 10 minutes tonight jedi
Camper Gizmo: I can, but I might not get all of it
Jedi Master Luke: ok
Labcrazy: Yes
Magine: lab, i will send the log to everyone, just email me your email address
Camper Gizmo: Magine? did  you get my email?
Labcrazy: WOOHOO!
Labcrazy: I get to stay!
May2687: YAY!
Magine: gizmo, i will check me email after class, ok? :D
Labcrazy: n/m Magine
Camper Gizmo: ok
Magine: u, so bout the color command...
Camper Gizmo: is your mother on the phone still, Lab?
phalaphe: magine...I have tried saving it as .rwx everytime the comp goes .rwx.txt
Jedi Master Luke: save it as txt
Labcrazy: Nope
Labcrazy: shes useing her line
Jedi Master Luke: zip it up
Labcrazy: so my bros letting me on his
Camper Gizmo: oh
Jedi Master Luke: and upload it to a object path
Labcrazy: Ok the rwx thing
Labcrazy: whats the rwx thing?
Magine: color 1 1 1 would be white, color 0 0 0  black, color .5 .5 .5 neutral gray
Camper Gizmo: oh I get that
Mizzy: phalaphe...  when you save it pull down under the name from txt to all files
Magine: color 1 0 0 = pure red, color 0 1 0 pure green, and so forth
Labcrazy: so its like blending?
Labcrazy: blending colors
Magine: lab, exactly
Camper Gizmo: would blue be 001?
Labcrazy: Ah!
Magine: you wouldn't use an number greater than 1 though
Magine: giz, yes 0 0 1 = pure blue
Camper Gizmo: 101 could be purple
phalaphe: how do you get yellow??
Magine: giz, now you got it :)
Labcrazy: so lie .5 .2 .0 would be some color?
Magine: color 1 1 0 = yellow
Camper Gizmo: 011 is yellow I think...
Camper Gizmo: yay!
Magine: yes lab, color .5 .2 0 would be sort of reddish yellow
Camper Gizmo: I kinda get this..
phalaphe: realy??  I thought nothing could combine to make a primary LoL
Mizzy: i have a long list of them i can send out
Labcrazy: ah
Camper Gizmo: cool
Jedi Master Luke: 210 is orange?
Magine: phal primary colors of light are different than primary colors of paint :)
Labcrazy: and 110 would be...?
phalaphe: ahh LOL...thought there was a diffrence :-)
Magine: jedi, you wouldnt use 2 because 1 would be 100%
Jedi Master Luke: Magine
Labcrazy: who do you know thw numbers?
Jedi Master Luke: whats orange
Magine: orange would be something like 1 .9 .5
Magine: i think, off the top of my head :)
Magine: experiment, remember :)
Labcrazy: Whats the first number stand foor?
Labcrazy: for?
Jedi Master Luke: red
Magine: now finally for tonight i'll mention the surface command
Labcrazy: _._ = red
Magine: that describes the lighting for the object
Jedi Master Luke: yeah
Labcrazy: ok so 111 is red?>
Jedi Master Luke: no
Jedi Master Luke: 100 is red
Magine: "surface .4 .3 0" for instance
Labcrazy: oh
Jedi Master Luke: whats .4 stand for
Magine: the first number (.4 in this case) is the "ambient" or general lighting
Labcrazy: surface? is that the surface of the object or color?
Jedi Master Luke: and .3
Jedi Master Luke: whats ambient mean?
Magine: the second number is the "diffuse" lighting
Camper Gizmo: ambient is ike those purple thingys over there
phalaphe: So that describes where the sun hits it??
Labcrazy: Big words
Magine: in this case think of ambient as being the object's basic lighting
Jedi Master Luke: what's diffuse mean
Magine: the number describe the amount
Labcrazy: so like if you wantsthe right side light but the other side dark it would be 100?
Magine: so 1 (=100%) would be brightest
Jedi Master Luke: 1 = white
Camper Gizmo: what is the most ambient?
Camper Gizmo: oh
Camper Gizmo: oops
Magine: these purple spheres show how the lighting command works
Labcrazy: and .5 would be light but not as ;ight?
phalaphe: Magine, could you have no surface lighting???
Magine: lab, yes
Labcrazy: that white one 1?
Camper Gizmo: would .1 be dark?
Magine: phal, of course
Labcrazy: Ah I see
Magine: .1 would be dark, 0 would be darkest
phalaphe: would it be dark?
Jedi Master Luke: whats diffuse mean
Labcrazy: Ah
Labcrazy: this isn't to hard
Camper Gizmo: OH
Camper Gizmo: i only get the color and this thingy
Magine: the second number, "diffuse" is reflected lighting that is scattered,
Magine: and the third number "specular" is reflected lighting like from a mirror
Jedi Master Luke: 0 = no reflected light?
Magine: jedi, right
Camper Gizmo: don't we have ambient diffuse etc on our avatars?
Labcrazy: now...whats the differnece between diffuse and spectaluar and ambient?
Magine: gizmo, yes...avatars are just a kind of model :)
Jedi Master Luke: 0 = what specular?
phalaphe: Magine, in a world, if all the surface lightings are diffrent, does it make it look like there are 500 diffrent suns everywhere making light??
Camper Gizmo: oh
Magine: the best way i can explain the difference between ambient, diffuse and specular is just to have you look at these spheres...
Labcrazy: Ah.
Magine: and of course, you can experiment :)
Jedi Master Luke: Magine 0 = what specular , 1 = what specular
Magine: the top row of spheres shows ambient, from 0 to 1
Camper Gizmo: ambient can have the darkest and the lightest out of the 3
Labcrazy: where do you state the amibeitn diffuse and spectaular on the notepad?
May2687: Disconnected. What'd I miss?
Magine: a high specular makes the object look shiny like a mirror
Labcrazy: alot
Jedi Master Luke: Magine
phalaphe: Magine, do these models assume that there is 0 of the other to surface effects??
Jedi Master Luke: what about 0
May2687: Now I'm lost again. :O(
Labcrazy: so the first number is ambient the second is diffuse and the thrid number/space is spectacular?
Camper Gizmo: why is specular overall the same?
Magine: the bottom row shows specular from 0 to 1, gizmo
Jedi Master Luke: WHAT about 0 magine 1= WHAT specular     0=what SPECULAR
Magine: specular 1=very shiny
Magine: specular 0=very "buff" or not shiny
Jedi Master Luke: 0=dull?
Magine: yes
Labcrazy: so..
Jedi Master Luke: class over?
phalaphe: would it be best to have the same surface on all the objects in a world to make it look like the sun is comming from one spot???
Magine: just make a simply model and play around with the combinations :)
Jedi Master Luke: Class Over?
Labcrazy: .3 .5 .1 is a very dark dull shiny sphere?
Labcrazy: .1=1
Magine: well .5 would be pretty high for diffuse, so not so dark
May2687: Ummmm.....I might leave in a sec, but I'll be back..my monitor just like flickered
Magine: you can all email me with questions, but please NO telegrams or ICQ's :)
Jedi Master Luke: MAGINE
Magine: yes jedi?
Jedi Master Luke: Is it over
Magine: yes, class is over :)
Jedi Master Luke: i gotta go
Jedi Master Luke: bubye
Camper Gizmo: Bye!
May2687: Bye
Magine: see you tomorrow night, same time & place :)
Labcrazy: Wow!
Camper Gizmo: this class was fun
Camper Gizmo: ok
May2687: Right here?
Mizzy: Thankyou
phalaphe: Magine, do you have classes that go further on then what we will learn in awcamp???
May2687: Or GZ?
Magine: may, yep
May2687: k
Magine: magine, there are longer classes in awu, i don't know when i will be teaching again myself
Magine: pretty busy in RL these days
Camper Gizmo: what are we doing tomorrow?
phalaphe: hmm :-)
May2687: <---glad she logs 'cause ppl tend to bother me IRL a lot
Magine: tomorrow i will tell you how to make spheres, discs, cones instantly without figuring any vertices :)
Camper Gizmo: yay!
phalaphe: will we cover other commands?? like texture or opactiy?
May2687: Neat!!!
Magine: i'll try, phal
phalaphe: LOL
phalaphe: in the email there will be a list of all the commands?
Magine: so, i will see you all then...
Magine: phal, i'll tell you where you can get the help file, yes
Carre: thank you Magine, :)
phalaphe: thanks :-)))
Magine: bye all, see ya then, over and out and *poof*!

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